Speaker 1 (00:00):
I asked her to come to evergreen clinic with me as well.
So she can check in my files and check the results, that coming back from me
and everything. Yeah. So Katie went there with me and I got all the letters for
that and Kate, see that there was nothing wrong with me. So Katie's always
stuck beside me. I've been with her for like 25 years prior to this. Yeah. Sort
of thing off and on from when we were children. Yeah. Because now what's
happens is Katie's stuck beside me for that. But, um, what actually happened is
I hang on one second when I've, when I've, when I've come, when I'm, when I'm
here now I've come. Katie come to the hospital while I was in there, Kate fell
pregnant just before I got set up and said that I went out in the garden and
said, what, what, what to the neighbours?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Me and Kay agreed to have a baby here. So Kate got
pregnant. And now, we was waiting to have a baby and that was no one else; that
wasn't anyone else; that wasn't none of my neighbour's business, but my
neighbours were still attacking me and her while we were in my home. So now
Kate has come to the hospital when I'm in St Ann's and told me, Si, I've lost
the baby. So now I've come out the hospital. I never told no one about it, but
I went, what happened is I went back to my home, my personal address. Now I was
in my home for two weeks and a new boy got moved into the flat Deborah was in
right above me. His name was George Quinton. Now, George. He told me his story.
People were banging at him and his gay boy and all of this. Yeah. I'll treated
George like a normal person like anyone else. But George has decided to follow
the rest the adults and started tapping at me and to try and get me. Now.
eventually.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Okay. what do you mean "Tapping"
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Tapping hitting the floor banging the walls, banging the
floor.
New Speaker (01:39):
Oh, beg your pardon yep.
New Speaker (01:39):
I can't go.
New Speaker (01:40):
Yep.
New Speaker (01:40):
I can't go to sleep on my sofa. Now, if I go to sleep on
my sofa now the black girl upstairs, or the 113 or Ozzie I'll show you the
recordings from yesterday. The day before, every time, every day I'm getting
attacked in my home. continuously yeah.
New Speaker (01:52):
OK so, this new man moves in called George and he starts the
banging from the
Speaker 2 (01:52):
George started attacking me, he starts banging at me.
Yeah,
New Speaker (01:59):
Yep, OK.
New Speaker (01:59):
Now, what actually happens is after two weeks of being out
of the hospital from being set up, I am supposed to have gone outside, gone up
to George's house and asked George because I have knocked on Georges door a few
times and asked him to behave politely.
New Speaker (02:14):
Yep.
New Speaker (02:14):
But I was supposed to have smashed George's bike up two
weeks after getting out the house. So I got arrested for George's bike. Now,
what happens on the fifth of the 10th, 2016, four days after Lemmy starts work.
Lemmy picks up George's bike case. And that's how, Lemmy get involved, Lemmy
start's work on the first of the 10th 2016, then on the fifth of the 10th, 2016
Georges bike happens just after I've been told about the baby and that yeah.
New Speaker (02:44):
yes.
New Speaker (02:44):
I didn't come back in that two weeks and say anything to
any of my neighbours about what Katie had come and told me in the hospital.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I just come back home. I've smashed Georges bike
supposedly and I've been put on bail conditions to stay at my mum's house. The
council never realised I was on bail conditions at my mum's house. Now Lemmy
picks up the case files. And then Lemmy started to deal with two cases.
George's bike and he deals with the Christine Case saying, what, what? because
remember I never got interviewed when I went to the police station for the
supposedly threatening the children. When I never went out in the back garden,
I never got interviewed because they knew that what I was going to be like in
the interview room. Yeah. So they've got me taken to the mental hospital. So, I
was still, when I'm in, I'm still on bail When I, when I got released from the
hospital, I had to go back to the police station in two weeks’ time to find out
who had said that I had done this to them.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah. Because I hadn't even been told who I had, who I was
to supposed to have said this to yeah, or what I had done. So, I went back; the
day, I'm supposed to go back to find that why I got put in the hospital, George
starts on me when I'm in the bath, having a shower and what’s not suppose Um,
while I ‘am having my bath and that, George goes in the bathroom flushing the
toilet and stumping above my head. My cameras prove all of this now because
I've got all, I've got cameras in every room and audio recordings So, I've
recorded the whole lot. Pretty much. Now George starts attacking me and I'm
supposed to have gone up to George's door. And I was supposed to knocked on
George's door. George and me are supposed to of had a con, with his door
closed, had a bit of an argument and George's bike was supposed to have got
smashed.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The police come and nicked me for the bike, took me to the
police station while I'm in the police station. I've been interviewed for both
cases. Now I've been told what happens is; I got taken to the Court and I got
told bail conditions. While the cases are ongoing, I've got to stay at my mum's
house and I'm not allowed to come back to my home. Now Lemmy start's work on
the first five days later is when the bike happens, Lemmy take on both cases.
Lemmy start's managing both cases now by the 16th of the month, Lemmy and that
have lost the case. They lose the both cases, the Georgia case, and they lose
that case. So, what Lemmy gets told to do in his, in the release notes by his
line manager Kanichewa what happens is witness care team message. Lemmy the day
before we're supposed to go for trial for both cases
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Sorry, Mr. Cordell, Mr. Cordell. Sorry can we just go back
one second, So when you say that they lost the case, they lost the case what in
court.
New Speaker (05:15):
Yeah, I went to court.
New Speaker (05:15):
Or they didn't have enough evidence
Speaker 1 (05:18):
What happened is, what happened is, I'm supposed to go to
court for trial on the 17th and on the; off the 10th, I think, or might be the
11th, but basically on the 16th, Lemmy and the Council receive an email. And I
receive an email of the witness care team in Holborn, which deals with the
Court and what they say is there's not enough evidence in any of the cases for
a likely conviction.
New Speaker (05:41):
Hmm,
New Speaker (05:41):
So there dropping both of the cases and Now, Kanichewa
Speaker 2 (05:43):
AR, right
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Kanechiwa got that email and now Kanichewa ask's Lemmy
five days after starting work, can you go to, um, Christine's house who is
looking after Stan who made all of this up maliciously. Can you go to Georgia
and Stain's and that and can you give them incident diaries? So Lemmy comes and
gives them incident diaries. When Lemmy is talking to them, they, he must know
because Lemmy’s is B block and so is Steven Elsmore based in B block and
they're all in the same, same office. Yeah. So Anti-Social Behaviour. So Lemmy,
Lemmy is upset in some of the recordings about the things I'm saying about his
colleagues, for instance. Yeah. So now what's happened is, um, basically Lemmy,
Lemmy come and met these lot and when he's met these lot, they've told him,
he's asked him, do you know anything else about Simon?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Because we need to get some stuff on Simon basically.
Yeah, now. I think Christine, Christine says, uh, an incident and that happened
like a year prior, a year prior to her making up the event of me going out in
the garden, which got me put in the nutty hospital. Yeah. And then, yeah,
basically Lemmy what happens is they lose the case. Lemmy gets Christine phone up
a couple of times afterwards, which I've got the notes of it all in the thing.
And she, she talks about an incident prior to all of the stuff that they had
made up. And she says another date now Lemmy does, is he takes the two cases
that they've lost. He puts that into a possession order. He takes the other
date, which Christine's now allowed to make up, even more maliciously prior to
the other case she has lost, puts that in there.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
He goes and makes up two other dates and then two or three
other dates. And he uses that. Now, just before that happens, Sarah Fletcher,
the neighbourhood office team, my mum's being sending the 16 months’ worth of
emails to Dawn Allen and Sarah Fletcher sort of took their place. Now who's the
now new neighbourhood officer at the time and what Sarah Fletcher has done
while I'm on my mum's sofa at my mum's house. She went and met the
Mathiyalagans on the top floor for the first time ever. Well, now they've gone
and made up; they had a meeting on the 11th of the 11/206 at the civic centre.
And what's happened is they made up five dates now one of them had like nine
months prior, a year prior that I've knocked on their door and done stuff.
Yeah. Now when I get out of the hospital and I come back home, I'm at home for
two weeks. George's bike happens I go to my mum's house. I phone up Sarah
Fletcher on the 22nd, just after the 11th. And I say to Sarah Flecture that
this isn't fair Sarah don't want to go back to that home. They've made up
stories about me going in my garden. I'm getting attacked every day. My mum's
been asking everyone to help. And the rest I explained to Sarah I'm on my mum's
sofa now Sarah had just met the Mathiyalagans on the 11th and let them make up
five days. Now Sarah knows that one of them dates, I'm not in this house, I'm
on my mum. I can prove that it was made up. She got the dates wrong, realising
that I wasn't. I was on bail conditions not to come to my house. So she gets
the dates wrong. Now she runs and leaves to company because I've told her
what's happening. And Lemmy comes in and Lemmy takes over the case. Lemmy on
the fifth, he gets loose. They lose the bike case, lose me going out in the
garden because of the care prosecution team he uses them. He goes and get Sarah
Fletcher's fake stuff. The five offences she made up when I was on bail
conditions at my mums. And she's put from the Mathiyalagans puts them in the
folder. The time limitation actors, it says six months, like someone has a
total report something they let these lot back date these things like a year prior,
just making history on me, take the history from Sarah Fletcher, put that into
a possession order. Take the two cases that they've just lost their, put them
into the possession order. He, I think then he uses to; he make two. There was
two other dates. He cause he doesn't realise like didn't realise that I was on
the sofa and he puts two other dates in it as well. Now he goes for a
possession order. Now I look at the possession order because I get when I'm on
my mum's sofa, not allowed to come to my house. and so, does my mum; my mum has
asked; my mums have emailed Lemmy saying Lemmy what Lemmy does is Lemmy and my
mum are arguing for like, for like eight months
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Sorry and the possession order is to what remove? then
take your flat away.
New Speaker (10:08):
Yeah, to take my flat to rob me of my home.
New Speaker (10:15):
But you don't want to be there anyway. Do you?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
No, what I would like is; the judge ordered I must have an
instant transfer.
New Speaker (10:22):
Yep.
New Speaker (10:22):
in the; when, once dealing with, Lemmy, what happened is
in short. Yeah. because I know you've put a lot and I know it's late and I'm
sorry for you having to;
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It is very late Mr. Cordell and I will have to stop the
call soon.
New Speaker (10:34):
Yeah, I apologise.
New Speaker (10:34):
We now almost an hour and 40 minutes.
New Speaker (10:37):
I can imagen
New Speaker (10:37):
Um, so, and the problem I've got as I keep saying.
New Speaker (10:41):
You can’t get to the files right now.
New Speaker (10:41):
I need the documentation.
New Speaker (10:41):
But I did not expect you to pick up the phone.
New Speaker (10:41):
I can’t get it open
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I'll, I'll get that all sorted out and I can get over to
you by tomorrow.
New Speaker (10:48):
And also I need to understand something as well Mr.
Cordell.
New Speaker (10:50):
Go on.
New Speaker (10:50):
Because this is really important. I need to understand
because I don't know this situation that you referenced about Jeremy Chambers.
New Speaker (11:00):
Yeah.
New Speaker (11:00):
and about how the council has banned you from telephoning
to complain to us
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah. From phoning. Now that that happened, that that's
easy. That's all come. It will all, it's all part of what happened basically we
are right at the end of it.
New Speaker (11:10):
OK.
New Speaker (11:10):
But basically, what happened is, Lemmy used the dead cases
and he uses all the cases. And he uses for the fake, dead cases that has got me
put in the hospital that they made up and all that. Then they served the
possession order using Sarah Fletcher's work and all the rest of it. He makes
31 offence's up.
New Speaker (11:27):
Hmm, hmm.
New Speaker (11:27):
Now I look at them and I say, I've won this case. I've won
this case. I've won this case in criminal courts. So how can you refile them in
a civil case? That's malicious process. Now Lemmy, Lemmy I Phone Lemmy up for
the first time. So I'm glad I've got, I've just got a list. This list of things
I'm supposed to have done.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I'm not in my house. On most of these dates. You've got
the dates wrong. I'm on bail conditions at my mums, and you're using all dead
cases that I've already run in a criminal court. This is illegal. Please. Can
you give me the statements to these people? Lemmy never had never met none of
them before properly at that staged before. He hadn't met them only Sarah
Fletcher had met the neighbours upstairs and Lemmy had gone to Christine's for,
uh, for, to give the incident diary's. So basically, what happens is, Lemmy
didn't have no statements for none of these things. And they're all dead cases
that I've won anyway. So now Lemmy couldn't apply or the second stage of the
possession order. So I in the phone calls. I'm saying to him, explaining to him
what's happened. So Lemmy goes and what Lemmy does is he creates an injunction
or puts all of the same 31 things that he made up for the possession order that
I've already won and puts it in into an injunction order.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Now he goes and meets every single one of these people.
After that date, for the first time and starts taking statements, off them,
making statements with them so he can put the statements. And because me and my
mum, what happens is he's messaging my mum while I'm on my mum's sofa he would
like to have a meeting with me. After the 5th he's had an offence. That's
happened to deal with a bike and to do with my neighbours. He wants a meeting
with me at the civic centre. Yeah. And I say to him, because of the Asbo I
don't want to go to the civic centre. If you're more than welcome to come to my
home, he says, I'm not coming to your home to have this meeting with you. Yeah.
You have to come. And I'm saying to him, well, it's not fair because I feel
that you're now labelling me as a perpetrator. Now that these people are saying
that I've done something and now you want to meet me, when me and mum have
messaged and all this time, you've never wanted me to come and take my side off
of me. This is unfair yeah, Now what Lemmy does is because of, because he knows
that that's happened. He, he, my mum's asking him for the offences in the
emails for like six months, four months, five months. Now Lemmy don't have no
offences at the beginning until Sarah Fletcher makes up them, then he uses the
dead cases. Then he sends them dead cases to my mum. Yeah. But what, what you
can tell is that I put the FOI into the computer. My mum had to, and there was
no information before Jeffrey Ohman team leader checked the computer's.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Sarah Fletcher, check the computers, everyone. And there
was no history for me prior to all of this. Yeah. And then Lemmy create this
history. And basically he's gone to the Asbo Um, for the an injunction order
we've gone to Court He never served some forms in time. Like the judge said, so
I've told the judge that he isn’t done that I was quick witty on it; on
something the judge said, the judge said the case is struck out and it can
never, ever go before a court ever again. So I've won the first injunction
order and the possession order never went ahead. Yeah. Because his re put that
in there if that makes sense now, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So, the Injunction is struck out
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, I got all the Court Order.
New Speaker (14:34):
Yep the injunction is stuck out.
New Speaker (14:34):
The injunction order, he used the same 31 things, put them
into the injunction that there was a; it was supposed to serve some paperwork
in a set time.
New Speaker (14:43):
yep.
New Speaker (14:43):
The judge realised how much trouble he was in and how bad
he was at the law and that and me and my mum were quite nifty in it. Yeah. So,
the judges gave him a chance and said to him, told him, Lemmy go and read this
file and what it says, when Lemmy goes and reads the file, it says, if you can
do an out of court settlement, do an out of court settlement that's what the
order for Lemmy was told to go and read. Lemmy decided not to do that.
New Speaker (15:05):
Did they
New Speaker (15:05):
What they've done is they; the judge, the judge struck it
out, said it can never be reinstated. Lemmy started going
New Speaker (15:11):
"Indubitable"
New Speaker (15:11):
into the Court every single day.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Because in one of the conversations, I say to him look go
and call an emergency application, an EGM meeting, because I've learned stuff
from the community hall working in the community. Lemmy, so Lemmy decides to go
and start trying to call these emergency applications at the Court. He's in the
Court every day with a company credit card, asking for the case to be reopened
under the same case number the judges are saying, no, no, no, no. Everyday
Lemmy's going there. Yeah, I have got all of the notes to it. When I didn't
know he was doing this, then basically I phoned up Lemmy on the phone, and I
have said to Lemmy on the phone, I'd done some homework online. Yeah, and I
checked at company house, um, Lemmy’s name and it come up that he was a
director of a company and Tracy Willis was a part a director with them so in
one phone conversation I have said to Lemmy You know, when I'm asking, are you
related to Tracy Willis or something like that and Lemmy's lost his temper,
he's going to, I'm going to kill you and your mother and I'm recording him and
all that. I'm going to kill you and your mother and that Yeah. Now this is, so
now what he does is he calls up the police and says to the police, the I've
told him, done the phone. I'm going to do something to him. And then the police
come and nicked me for that. While I'm in the police station, he runs back to
the Court again, which has been saying no, no, no to him. And he opens up a
brand new case, another injunction order, which is solely for me threatening
him.
New Speaker (16:33):
"Indubitable"
New Speaker (16:33):
Now, now he then goes to the Mathiyalagans upstairs he
takes them to Court and he doesn't affidavit of service, which is perjury under
the 1911 under the 1911 Act If you do an affidavit of service, 1911 perjury
Act, if you do affidavit of service, that's when you filed the elements for
perjury Now, he takes the Mathiyalagans back to the Court After opening up the
second injunction for threats against him on the telephone supposedly, which
never really happened. You can tell in the recording, he threat's me and my
mum. Yeah. Then he basically gets all of the old case paperwork and reinstates
it into the second injunction order. Now, me and my mum switched at the judge
this is all stuck out; it’s the same cases we've already won this, this is
supposed to be about threats to Lemmy a phone call made while I was in my house
to Lemmy
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah. Now the judge says that he wants the hole folder
indexed. So the folder has to be indexed Lemmy has had to go back and index the
second injunction order and all of the extra stuff that he's put in that was
struck out. Now, the judge, the judge looks at and says, the case is over.
You've lost the case yeah, to Lemmy yeah. Now Lemmy lose the case. Now I start
phoning up the civic centre I phone up the civic centre and say to them well
look Lemmy just lost this other case again, and I can prove all of these
things, now Jeremy Chambers and all that start. I asked Jeremy Chambers, can he
do an investigation? Jeremy Chambers can he do an investigation
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So, you spoke to Jeremy by email
Speaker 1 (18:00):
By email, Yeah by email and by my mum
New Speaker (18:00):
By email so you didn't actually speak to Jerry Chambers
New Speaker (18:00):
I did not personally speak to Jeremy Chambers but I've got
personal letters off Jeremy, with Jeremy signing them.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Sorry, sorry Mr. Cordell I just want to understand what
you did. You said you phoned up the civic centre.
New Speaker (18:15):
Yeah.
New Speaker (18:15):
And you said that the case has been lost. And then you
immediately talked about Jeremy Chambers, but you didn't speak to Jeremy
Chambers.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
So what's happened is I've said that the case has been
lost and, um,
New Speaker (18:27):
Yep.
New Speaker (18:27):
I'm not happy with it. Then what Jeremy Chamber's done.
New Speaker (18:30):
yep.
New Speaker (18:30):
is Jeremy Chambers emailed my mother and told my mother
that, um, if I contact the civic centre, he's investigated everything that I've
said. Yeah. Which is a load of rubbish.
New Speaker (18:42):
Yep.
New Speaker (18:42):
And if I phone up the civic centre, I’m barred from
phoning the civic centre, he wrote a letter and signed it himself and
everything yeah all with Enfield Council, he says that the neighbourhood office
team belongs to him in the civic centre them in the civic centre. He's in
charge, they're in charge of the neighbourhood office team and that if I phone
up the neighbourhood office team, or I phone up the civic centre about these
allegations, again, what they're going to do is file for another possession
order. Yeah. So I'm like hang on the second file for another possession order
for what like sort of thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
The letter from Jeremy Chambers that you're referring to.
New Speaker (19:16):
Yeah.
New Speaker (19:16):
You're able to give me a copy of it are you.
New Speaker (19:22):
Yeah, I have got loads of it I have got loads of um, loads
from different emails from him.
New Speaker (19:22):
OK, That. Okay, no that's fine because what I'm concerned
about is that my telephone is routed through the civic centre. Even though I'm
not at the civic centre,
New Speaker (19:29):
OK.
New Speaker (19:29):
my telephone is routed through there. So I need to be able
to understand whether your, whether that comment that you've made there of what
Jeremy Chambers has said to you in that letter, whether that is that you're not
allowed to telephone the council at all, or whether you're not allowed to phone
the Council "inaudible"
Speaker 1 (19:50):
It's for two years what he says in his letter is that I’m,
I'm not allowed to give; he's done an investigation, all of the phone calls
that I've made to them,
Speaker 2 (19:59):
So, all the stuff you've told me about all the stuff
you've told me about. You told Jeremy chambers about that Right?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
No I did not get a chance to tell Jeremy Chambers what's
happened is my mum's message that may be maybe them lot again in one of them
emails. And what's happened is I phoned up in the conversation with Lemmy. I
asked Lemmy when he was doing this and going for the second possession order.
Have you ever, are you a solicitor or are you, are you, are you governed by law
sort of thing? And he goes, because I see, Lemmy was training in one of the
pictures before he worked at the civic centre, he was outside Westminster and
he'd done a law degree and that so I said Lemmy if you've done a law degree,
you; this isn't, you, you should already know what you're doing? You've put,
he, she, he, she on 20 different neighbours on 31 offences under the hearsay
act, I can't call none of these people to Court
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And if I have the right to request any accuser to Court,
to question the stability of there statements, Lemmy So all the only people's
name that you've put in this is your name. So I can only call you and none of
my neighbours to court. And I think that's unfair in the beginning, that it is
he? He says, you've done this on that day. She says, you've done that. So now
Lemmy, I say to Lemmy do you know what, Lemmy I think the best thing for you
Lemmy right now is to go and get yourself a solicitor. Now what Lemmy does is
next to the civic centre. I don't know if he's bosses or whatever next to pizza
hut is a solicitor firm, they hire this Lumina in from there as a private
solicitor. Now the Lyminiya comes in and she starts to manage the case for,
Lemmy know.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I start phoning up Lymidia and I say to Lydmida I ‘am
explaining
New Speaker (21:45):
Who's this sorry, say her name again Lymidia
New Speaker (21:45):
Lymidida yeah, that's correct. Yeah. The only reason she
works,
New Speaker (21:47):
ok.
New Speaker (21:47):
the only reason she works for the company is because in
the conversation with Lemmy, I'm saying to Lemmy are you a solicitor, I didn't
know about Jeremy Chambers or a law of governance. I hadn't worked that stage
out So I'm saying to Lemmy I know you trained to be a solicitor are you acting
in a legal manner at the present time in the phone conversation, Lemmy start ‘a
to realise that I'm working everything out. So, I say to Lemmy on the phone, I
think use lot need to go and get yourself a Solicitor firm, Now, Um, Lemmy goes
and speaks. They speak to the pizza. The Solicitor firm, next to pizza hut,
Now, and they speak to a woman called Jean
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Now, Jean is the part, one of the partners of the
solicitor firm the Limidia was underneath her. And she was mostly well looked
after now. The Lumidia has been loaned to the civic centre at that stage. She's
been loaned over on a sub fee or whatever it is. Yeah. Now basically,
eventually because I'm phoning up Limidia and explaining to Limidia um, what
Lemmy has been doing yeah. On the phone. I'm recording me, explaining to her,
well, this is wrong.
New Speaker (22:53):
Ok.
New Speaker (22:53):
hoping, calling on a better nature for a new person to
oversee everything. Now she's on their team already yeah, So basically what she
does is she, um, she, she, she wouldn't listen to what was being explained. We
kept going, she starts writing loads of paperwork and starts getting heavy
handed in the paperwork, which I eventually ended up phoning up Jean Lymida's
original boss at the pizza Hut thing and I speak to her on the phone. And I say
to her, look, Lumina is acting in such a way. And I think this, I want to
explain something now, Jean comes to Court through the second through the
second possession order. Now what happens is the civic centre. They I'm, I'm
putting it on the judge and on Lymida now and Lemmy what I can prove and in
front of the Judge now they all know that they're in trouble. So, what the
Council do is say that even though they've created this second injunction
order, that they don't think that I’m fit to stand trial on my own. And they
would like a mental health assessment done. They asked the judge for it. The
judge says I'm not calling that in my name but what I will say is use lot as
the claimants have asked me to have an assessment done on Simon because you
don't think that he's fit to stand trial. So the Council Enfield Council agree
to pay the fees for a private assessment for another private assessment, the
assessment.
New Speaker (24:13):
Hmm, hmm.
New Speaker (24:13):
people come to my door and what's not and a woman does and
I put it on the assessment woman in a polite way. I show her some evidence. Now
she runs. Now two days later, I get another phone call.
New Speaker (24:25):
Sorry when was this.
New Speaker (24:25):
This was in the, in the, in the middle of the second
possession order and second injunction order.
New Speaker (24:29):
Ruffly, ruffly what year was this
Speaker 2 (24:32):
2017,
Speaker 1 (24:32):
2017, 2018, 2017.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
2017, 2018, Yes, OK
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Now, the Council force the mental health assessment, even
though they know what I'm saying, well I can prove these 32 allegations are
forged and they're been refiled,
Speaker 2 (24:48):
The Mental Health Assessment, the person comes to your
property and what happens
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I speak to the woman at the door, I got the recording of
it. And I explained to her what's going on.
New Speaker (24:57):
Right.
New Speaker (24:57):
She runs off.
New Speaker (24:58):
Yep.
New Speaker (24:58):
because she doesn't want to be involved and get herself in
trouble. She realises how much trouble they're in.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Now.
New Speaker (25:04):
She does not come into your property.
New Speaker (25:04):
No,
New Speaker (25:04):
She talks to you at the doorway.
New Speaker (25:04):
She doesn't come in.
New Speaker (25:06):
You talk to her and then she leaves.
New Speaker (25:06):
she's in the communal hall way at the door.
New Speaker (25:08):
Yeah, I've got my dictator in my hand. And I show her the
dictator in my hand,
New Speaker (25:14):
Yep.
New Speaker (25:14):
this is what happened.
New Speaker (25:14):
Indubitable.
New Speaker (25:14):
And I show her the dictator and she say to me, Oh, so
you're recording the meeting are you and I said, yeah, I'm going to record the
meeting. She said, I'm not coming in if you're recording the meeting, the phone
calls online. Yeah. I say to her, I say to, I say to her, well, why won't you
come in because I'm recording the meeting. I'm allowed to take minutes in a
digital format of any meeting it's law. It's my legal right to do that. She
says, I'm not, if you're going to be recording the meeting I'm not coming in.
So I say, all right, well, don't come in. Then she said, well, I'm going to put
this down that you refuse to have a meeting.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Now I phone up the council and everyone and say to them,
this isn't right. So I'm allowed to record the minutes to my meetings. Yeah.
under this law and I give them the law and that; they send out two Council
Officers and another independent assessment team. They come into my house. Now
just before they come, I phone up the mental health assessment myself again and
say, well, look, the judge has set a time limit on this and the time limits now
gone over. So now I'm phoning use lot personally. Can you send somebody out to
do an assessment on me?
New Speaker (26:14):
Hmm, hmm.
New Speaker (26:14):
They send out someone to do an assessment on me so I can.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Hang on hang on let's go back one sec. Sorry. Just one
second. You say that two Council Offices and an assessment team come out, but
you also telephone the assessment team.
New Speaker (26:28):
That's correct. Just prior.
New Speaker (26:30):
And she comes out as well
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, another two ladies, come out after the first lady
comes and refuses to be recorded.
New Speaker (26:36):
Yep.
New Speaker (26:36):
I phoned up the assessment team because the judge has set
a time limit for it all and they send out another two people, which is like,
now, going through the years is my six assessment or whatever.
New Speaker (26:47):
Yeah,
New Speaker (26:47):
They come in. We go through everything, I show them all my
evidence and everything, they're like, you're right Si and they leave happy
saying that there's nothing wrong with me. Now two days later, I get another
phone call. Saying now two other; another assessment. Another assessment has
got to be done. I'm like, well, I phoned up and made my own one. Yeah now.
New Speaker (27:03):
Right.
New Speaker (27:03):
I said, okay, well I'll have the other one. Let's take it.
So, I have 3 assessments in one week but one woman walks away two women come
in, then two Council Officers and one other woman come in. Now, my mum writes
to Daniel Eles and Daniel Elese is saying because what happened something to do
the first one, me being abusive, which is a load of rubbish they just make up
some reasons and say that's why the Council Officers have to be here but it is
an independent assessment. They go through all my evidence. I've got too much
evidence and recording it.
New Speaker (27:34):
It’s not about evidence, I thought you were having an
assessment because they're saying that you're not. Um, capable of standing
trial.
New Speaker (27:40):
yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, But the reason that they are saying that I'm not
capable of standing trial is because they're saying that they're basically
saying that what the whole principle of what they’re saying is the Doctors.
There's three reasons why the doctors keep getting involved, obviously, because
of all the referrals and they're being asked every second from the council, because
I got all the referrals from the Council computer, every time my mum emails to
Council the Council send a referral to the doctor saying, please go to Simon's
Now I have got every referral
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And there assessing you aren’t they there not assessing
the case.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah. They're assessing.
New Speaker (28:11):
There assessing you.
New Speaker (28:11):
me and there assessing, they're assessing me. Yeah.
New Speaker (28:14):
But they don't need to look at the of the documents.
New Speaker (28:14):
But they do? They do to a degree because it's my life. And
what's happening to me has a massive and what the council allow to happen to my
well-being.
New Speaker (28:24):
I understand that yeah, I know.
New Speaker (28:24):
is a massive part of my life and my health and that
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I do I understand that but what I'm trying to understand
is that you're saying that one person came and then left because she didn't
like that you were going to be using a dictator machine.
New Speaker (28:36):
Recording her.
New Speaker (28:36):
You had a recording machine on So she left.
New Speaker (28:39):
Yeah.
New Speaker (28:39):
Then you telephoned the assessment team. Two people come
out, they assess you. And they say there is nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah. They say there's nothing wrong.
New Speaker (28:46):
And then,
New Speaker (28:48):
and then the Council say.
New Speaker (28:50):
Another week latter two Council officers and team.
New Speaker (28:50):
And another woman, again, Yeah, again
Speaker 2 (28:56):
One woman sorry, they come into your property, they assess
you.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
They assessing me to see if I ‘am
New Speaker (29:00):
And they say what.
New Speaker (29:00):
they assess, me to see if I'm fit for trial to see if I'm
fit for trial.
New Speaker (29:04):
Yeah.
New Speaker (29:04):
Now.
New Speaker (29:06):
And what do they say.
New Speaker (29:06):
Now, I record in there obviously, because I'm going to
take advantage of whatever I can because I'm not getting assessed as Mental
ill, I showed them my diary, my evidence, I record the conversation. So,
everything went in my favour because I've got a good case behind me for everything
here. I show them what the Council has been letting happened to me and the
Council and the one that set the application up and to get away from what I can
prove that they've done in the application. Now they're trying to get me
mentally assessed. Yeah. Which is illegal. Yeah. Show that this is what the
council are doing. Yeah. They made it up there. Brought it to Court and
realised they're going to lose badly reinstated again. Re-instate it again the
same claims,
New Speaker (29:46):
Yeah, no I. yeah, I understand that
New Speaker (29:46):
which is not necessarily now. so they've got, so basically
because of the angle that I've come from, they've had to sort of listen to it
in the flat a bit. Yeah. So, I'm showing them, Videos of Ambrose attacking me,
I'm showing them all in my diary. I'm showing them all videos that use lot have
never seen
Speaker 2 (30:04):
How many hours
Speaker 1 (30:05):
An assessment could take; I've had about 15, 16
assessments. Now
Speaker 2 (30:10):
How many hours roughly did the one where the two council
officers and the woman come out a session, ruffly
Speaker 1 (30:16):
An hour, an hour, an hour and a bit maybe.
New Speaker (30:20):
One hour.
New Speaker (30:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Mr. Cordell we've been speaking for two hours about this.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I understand that but it is eight years. Eight years of
everything. Yeah,
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I understand that. But the problem I've got is that you
want to make a claim against the Council, which is your rights.
New Speaker (30:33):
Yeah.
New Speaker (30:33):
You know, there is no issue there. You have the right to
make a claim against the Council. Anyone can make a claim against the Council.
New Speaker (30:42):
I understand that.
New Speaker (30:42):
That's not in dispute. What we need is we need evidence. And
while she would tell me all these things, and I now have a bit more of a better
understanding of what happened and roughly when I still don't have hold of the
documents
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I understand that.
New Speaker (30:56):
I have to see all of the documents.
New Speaker (30:56):
I understand that I have put them online. And I just
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Sorry. Could you just bear with me just for one moment.
New Speaker (31:02):
Yeah, of course Sorry madam.
New Speaker (31:02):
so can I just finish? Just one moment. Um, thank you. So
what I need from you is I need you to be able to give full access so that we,
the council and our insurance department,
New Speaker (31:19):
Can over view.
New Speaker (31:19):
our insurers and whoever they are goanna, um, uh, um,
instruct to deal with the claim because our insures doesn't actually claim's
handle themselves.
New Speaker (31:30):
yeah, its Gilit and Bazzel.
New Speaker (31:30):
We need to have access to this information
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I understand that. But do you know what the, my problem
has been? Yeah. Like I explained the amount of money do you know, honesty just
to host my website. I only get 5,000 pounds on benefits a year to live off of.
Yeah. At the moment, I've not been able to work or do hold my festival or do
anything because I have been fighting to keep my home, to live in my home for
four years of malicious process from the first possession order till today now
is four years yeah, that they have used all of this to cover up what happened
in the Asbo while I'm fighting the Asbo. And I've had my neighbours attacking
me every day they don't let me sleep. I can't sleep. I sleep on my sofa. They
know that I'm going to sleep. They will come and start jumping above my head
and that yeah,
Speaker 1 (32:10):
So I I've been right now, Um, I've had to spend about two
grand just on out paying to get the Wix website up and to get everything up
yeah, with no revenue coming back for me and that's out of my five grand. So,
I've really been trying to, I've been, I've had to cut down on so many things
because there's a free stage on the internet where you can host a little
website and then once you start getting to files that are too a certain size,
they want like an extra 1,400 there 500 there 300 do you know. So not all of
these things and fighting from my home. So you can imagine it all comes down
to, I've had to really fight. Now I've cut as many corners as I can. I'm just
about got my finger on it. Every single day I get up at six o'clock in the
morning.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I swear to God and I will not stop writing and organizing
all of these files that everyone else created yeah, to do. Yeah. And I don't
stop till 12 midnight, six in the morning Bang till you can ask any neighbour
here. All I do is work. I don't, I don't watch TV. I don't listen to nothing. I
just work every second. That's all I do. And it's took all of this. It's robbed
all of this time of me to, to just get to where I'm at now do you know, and
it's killing me in cost. Sort of thing yeah, like because of the way that
everything set out, because I'll be happy just to come to you with the folders.
Lemmy and all that over served me.
New Speaker (33:31):
We can’t we have already discussed that
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, I understand? I understand that.
New Speaker (33:34):
A number of times Mr. Cordell.
New Speaker (33:34):
I understand that.
New Speaker (33:35):
And it’s not possible.
New Speaker (33:35):
I understand that. I understand that.
New Speaker (33:37):
So, there is no point in going over that.
New Speaker (33:37):
I understand that it's just the amount, it just because as
I am writing as, I am rectifying the issues and I’m phone, Lemmy say well I'm
up to this stage and everything's covered. Lemmy and all that would overload me
with even more paperwork and then it's just been a continuously thing, now
there is like Something like thirty million Pages like, like I'm saying in
2014, when Dawn and everyone checked there, wasn't one bit of paperwork in my
name When I put the FOI into the Council in 2014 my name didn't have nothing,
other than housing benefits and that, now there's like 30 million words that
have been made up from these malicious allegations and stuff that I haven't
done. And Lemmy and that, when I show you the state of the diary and how much
they've abused it, you're going to understand why, why, why it's taken so long.
Honestly, I'm not lying to you. What they've done is so bad.
New Speaker (34:27):
At no point Mr. Cordell have I ever said that you are
lying
Speaker 1 (34:30):
No, I'm not saying that I've never said that, I never said
that. I never said that. I never said that. I just said, you'd understand how
bad it is, what they've all done and how big of a problem it is and how hard it
is for me too.
New Speaker (34:42):
OK.
New Speaker (34:42):
Because I'm, I'm trying to keep up with like just here
alone. My mum was emailing; when I count my mum's emails and the officials, my
mum, has emailed and that the departments that she went to in regards to these
issues, just on a rough count of her emails, there's 1,500 officials. When I've
gone and took every letter my mum done, she hid all of the emails behind my
back for 16 months and all that. And all the rest, the only time my mum told me
about all this paperwork was when Lemmy went from my house because she had to
tell me they're going to take my home off of me. So I've switched on my mum,
we've had massive arguments she gave me a small amount of emails. Then once
I've built it once, she's gone I have had to switch because there's stuff
missing now she's just gave me loads a massive pile more in 2019 yeah
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Now I've got to phone every single one of them people.
Yeah. And I've recorded them all and gone through everything with everybody and
explained to them where they're at fault and I've put everything straight.
Yeah. So now I've had to transcribe all of them, just do you know everything.
And honestly the process I've had to go through while being, while suffering
it, if I could have gone faster. I promise you. And if I could have got it to
you easier then I would have done.
New Speaker (35:54):
Yeah, No, I understand that.
New Speaker (35:54):
Do you know what my main goal has been to do.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I'm saying to you, you're going too slow. I'm not saying
that.
New Speaker (36:03):
Yeah, I know.
New Speaker (36:03):
What I'm trying to get at is that you're not the only
claim that I have.
New Speaker (36:07):
I understand that.
New Speaker (36:07):
We have 700 claims.
New Speaker (36:10):
I know that already I have seen the list of cases.
New Speaker (36:10):
So, I can only be on the phone to you for certain
reasonable amount of time now I do understand the difficulty that you are in. I
really do. And you are trying to get the information collated as easily as
possible so that our insurers and whoever they instruct to represent them can
actually look at it and understand what the issues are. I understand that
there's there is s, there's no dispute there.
New Speaker (36:37):
I had learning and reading problems.
New Speaker (36:37):
that is absolutely fundamental,
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Like did you know that before this, I couldn't read and
write properly. Yeah. Like the Council know that in their computers
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Mr. Cordell, we need to sort of wrap things up.
New Speaker (36:47):
OK.
New Speaker (36:47):
Because It's almost six o'clock. Okay. So, um,
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Is it possible I am going to get the links and I just got
everything together in the last couple of days, the server I've got the files?
New Speaker (36:57):
Right.
New Speaker (36:57):
And I'm just trying to get the H.T.T.P.S into it. Once
I've got; I have got to quickly pay an extra 30 or 40 pound for that. So I'm
just waiting for some extra money to come in like now, and this Saturday And
then I'm going to put that and I'm going to pay for that straight away. Then I
can put everything into one website instead of having the server and the
website, because the website, horrific corruption wont except the server,
unless it has the (S) In it the end of it. So I need to put the (S) in it. Then
I can put all that in the web and then I can it'd be a lot easier for me. I've
really, honestly, I swear to God, I have tried my best man and I've been, I've
been going right though it? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
It’s up to you how you want to present your case? It's not
for me to say, you must do it in particular way. It's up to you, how you want
to present it. So I need the information. I need to be able to provide that to
our insurers and they, and whoever they put in to deal with the claim
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Like I was explaining in the beginning of the Councils
history on my computers, they've got a letter yeah and the letter says that I
can't read and write. So they Council all the police and Council thought though
out this Asbo and everything that I couldn't read and write at all, but I could
read and write to a degree. I was just tongue tied as a child and went to
speech therapy.
New Speaker (38:09):
Hmm, hmm.
New Speaker (38:09):
So I was a bit slower at it yeah, now, obviously, because
I've had to do so much, I've got a lot better at it do you know, uh, at reading
and writing on my own and doing stuff. Yeah. Like I was saying in my reports,
in the Council's history, I used to have Tulip support team help me. And that's
what I was saying to you. Like somewhere down the lines, I've had no support.
Me and my mum were falling out because of all of this, because of how much she
wrote behind my back and how much she used my signature and talked and that
Speaker 1 (38:36):
A lo it has helped me in the long run I would have rather
her involve me info with me in it do you know.
New Speaker (38:41):
Hmm, hmm.
New Speaker (38:41):
Honestly, I've, I've, I've had to overcome a lot of
different problems to be able to even get as of this far. I if it's possible
and your happy, I know we've explained most of what's happened in a ruff gest
now, which is the longest part. If I can try and get the files to Wix, and I
can confirm that they're working with a separate laptop ready for tomorrow, and
I can email you over that information tomorrow.
New Speaker (39:04):
Yes.
New Speaker (39:04):
And what not and then maybe if you contact me back once
you've had some time, or if it doesn't work well.
New Speaker (39:11):
Mr. Cordell Well, what I won't, I need to make this really
clear to you because I don't want to give you an, uh, a false expectation.
Okay. So I need to be really, really clear when you advise me hopefully
tomorrow of where I can find the documentation, I'll be forwarding that
information to our insurers and to whoever is dealing with the claim. Okay. I
am not going to go through the documentation and all she questions myself.
Okay. The claim will be dealt with by an external provider because under the
terms of conditions of our policy, we are not supposed to have conversations
with people that are making claims against the Council. I'm happy to talk to
you. I’m happy. Tell me everything afternoon.
New Speaker (39:59):
I appreciate that.
New Speaker (39:59):
That's fine.