Speaker 1: 00:19 Hello,
[inaudible] good afternoon.
New Speaker: 00:20 Hello,
is this evergreen sexual clinic?
New Speaker: 00:25 yes,
it is.
New Speaker: 00:25 I
was wondering if you could help me. Um, in February I attended the clinic.
Well, just before February I attended the clinic and I had attended a few times
before. I never really had a problem. I'd load the checks and never had a
problem. On one occasion I attended the clinic and I'd been informed by a
partner that I was with that there was a chance that I might have had HSV1
HSV2, which is herpes.
New Speaker: 00:48 Okay.
New Speaker: 00:49 Now,
what actually happened is I, I asked for a blood test to be done and evergreen
surgery explained to me that they don't normally do blood tests in regards to
herpes,
New Speaker: 00:58 Yes.
New Speaker: 00:58 but
I was quite, I was quite distressed about being accused of such allegations. So
I asked the, I asked the clinic, they would do, do this for me. Yeah.
New Speaker: 01:07 hmm.
New Speaker: 01:07 They
agreed to do it and they'd done the blood test. A couple of months later I
received a phone call back off of a woman. Now, this woman explained, she
explained to me that I, I tested positive for HSV1 HSV2 and I asked a general
questions as any other person would. I believe it might even be yourself that I
actually spoke to who actually phoned me. Am I correct in thinking that.
New Speaker: 01:31 I'm
not so sure because it is normally another person that does the results
Speaker 1: 01:37 Okay.
Well, what actually happened is she phoned me and after her telling me I tested
positive. Like I basically,
New Speaker: 01:44 And
this was a blood test.
New Speaker: 01:44 yeah,
it was a black woman. Yeah, that's correct.
New Speaker: 01:53 No,
no it was a blood test.
New Speaker: 01:53 it
was a what.
New Speaker: 01:53 it
was, was it a blood test.
New Speaker: 01:53 a
black woman.
New Speaker: 01:53 Yeah.
Blood test yeah, a blood test,
New Speaker: 01:54 year.
New Speaker: 01:54 I
forced the blood test. Yeah,
New Speaker: 01:58 OK.
New Speaker: 01:58 because
I never had no symptoms.
New Speaker: 01:59 [inaudible]
there dead
New Speaker: 01:59 I
never had no symptoms. At the same time, I never had no understand into what
HSV1 was. I thought HSV1 was like If I let somebody else's blood touch my
blood, I might destroy their life. And I was working in community halls with
lots of children. I was working in local parks,
New Speaker: 02:16 hmm,
hmm.
New Speaker: 02:16 so
I was so, I was left in a bad way thinking I can't even work with children
anymore, let alone have children year. After I spoke.
New Speaker: 02:23 [inaudible]
there dead
New Speaker: 02:23 this
woman and I asked this woman on the phone that informed me if I can have sexual
contact with any other person.
Speaker 1: 02:29 She
told me, no, I can't kiss another person, and she told me I can't have sex with
another person. so, I said to her if I wear if I wear a condom, can I still
have sex with my partner? She said, no, there's still a chance that you will
give that to your partner. wearing a condom.
New Speaker: 02:43 [inaudible].
there dead
New Speaker: 02:43 So
I was so upset. So I put the phone down. I thought my life was over. I tried to
hang myself and kill myself. It took me months to repair myself. Yeah. I've sat
down at my mum's bed at the end of my mum's bed one day and I was so upset like
what had happened and I was like, practically at the stage where I was ready to
kill myself because of what I had been informed and the way that I had been
informed and she explained to me, hasn't my mother asked me, didn't you get
called in for a consultation of such form.
New Speaker: 03:08 Hmm,
New Speaker: 03:08 or
given no protection?
New Speaker: 03:10 Hmm,
hmm.
New Speaker: 03:10 I
was like, no. Funny enough, I never got given a consultation. I never got given
protection. So I arranged another meeting with the clinic and I come and I see
a doctor, Chung wing, I believe her name is Chung Wang or something.
Speaker 2: 03:20 Oh
no, no, no, no. I'm that is the consultant here. That's what our consultant is
called
Speaker 1: 03:24 You
had a consultant. Now in meeting a consultant. And I brought another witness
with me because I was quite concerned for the, for the, for how the company,
how Evergreen had actually run it, run itself. And how it actually contacted me
and told me this information. In getting to the office, I looked into the files
and I looked at my own blood tests results.
New Speaker: 03:44 Hmm,
hmm.
New Speaker: 03:44 And
it says it suggest I may be a carrier, not that I am a carrier, It said that it
suggests. Now, this woman misinformed me. So what I asked Mrs. Chung to do was
to write me a letter explaining that, explaining that I was misinformed on the
phone. She did write me this letter and I, I have a copy of the letter and it
says, I'm sorry that you was informed. Informed incorrectly. Yeah, but it
doesn't really go into detail to who the person was that informed me
incorrectly and how she did it.
New Speaker: 04:15 Hmm,
hmm.
New Speaker: 04:15 And
how she did inform me incorrectly.
New Speaker: 04:16 There
Dead
Speaker 1: 04:17 It
wasn't as conclusive as I wish it could be. Now I'm still left in a state of
confusion even to this date now because that letter contradicts itself in three
places. It says that there, might still be a chance of me giving it to somebody
there might be this, but on the bottom hand it says that it suggest I may be a
carrier. I'm a very confused person.
New Speaker: 04:37 I
still feel very.
New Speaker: 04:38 [inaudible].
New Speaker: 04:38 suicidal
because of the advice that has been given to me.
New Speaker: 04:42 Year.
New Speaker: 04:42 and
I've, and I've read and I've learned from a lot of places now and I understand
I should never have been informed in such a way and I should have been called
in for a consultation. I'm at a stage where I want to put prosecute. I want to
put a proper complaint in, in regards to this.
New Speaker: 04:55 Hmm,
hmm.
New Speaker: 04:55 and.
New Speaker: 04:55 There
Dead.
New Speaker: 04:55 I'd
like to know who the person actually that gives the results out to people is
because.
New Speaker: 04:59 There
Dead.
New Speaker: 04:59 this
destroyed my life still today Now.
Speaker 1: 05:01 I
still don't know how I feel. I don't even want to talk to other people anymore.
I won't even say hello to another person anymore because of it let alone work
in a community hall with all the children, I've got emails and me having to ask
my community hall questions that I should have been informed by yourselves.
New Speaker: 05:16 Like,
am I safe working around children anymore? I've had to write, I had to write to
my secretaries and things like that. I've got all the correspondence. I'm
asking other people the advice that I should've been given by yourselves or by
other representatives of your company. I was wondering if I can find out the
person's name, if I can get re sent out a copy of the letter that was wrote by
Miss. Chung so, I can have another copy of that please And I would ask and I
would like Miss Chung to re go over what she's wrote and see how contradicting
is and how that could lead.
Speaker 2: 05:47 I
think what I would suggest is, um, what's this? We would, um, what do you have
worries in the compliant, isn't it? And the other, is I don't know what, what's
happening at the moment. I don't know about the letter. If you want, you can
see our consultant Um, we have, um, Doctor [inaudible] is not in the clinic,
Um, she's, Oh leave. So it, it's another consultant that is on the clinic.
Speaker 1: 06:14 Yeah.
Can I see another consult and arrange another meeting with another person then.
New Speaker: 06:17 Year,
you can hmm,
New Speaker: 06:17 Can
I actually find out what my blood tests were actually, because from reading
now,
New Speaker: 06:24 I'm
not really sure. I think what you have to do is when you see the consultant,
I'm going to speak to him. When you see the consultant, then they can check
everything. because obviously we don't have your file here.
Speaker 1: 06:33 Yeah.
What blood tests were actually taken on the [inaudible] . Well, can I,
New Speaker: 06:38 Year
because I will not know.
New Speaker: 06:38 Can
I arrange that meeting for as soon as practically possible then please so that
I can resolve these issues.
Speaker 2: 06:45 [inaudible]
will have to inform office. I will have to speak to our consultants on because,
um, our newsroom, I don't, I'm not so sure. Um, was this when he is available,
but, um, let me get your name and then I'm going goanna let you hang.
New Speaker: 06:58 UR,
OK.
New Speaker: 06:58 Ur,
hang on for a while.
Speaker 1: 06:59 Okay.
New Speaker: 07:00 What
is your name.
New Speaker: 07:00 Mr.
Simon Cordell, C O R D E L L.
New Speaker: 07:08 And
what is your date of birth.
New Speaker: 07:08 26,
the first 1981.
New Speaker: 07:13 26th
of the 1st.
New Speaker: 07:13 of
the 1st 1981?
New Speaker: 07:16 January,
year.
New Speaker: 07:16 Yes,
that's correct Madam.
Speaker 2: 07:17 Okay.
And um, your mobile number?
Speaker 1: 07:20 Um,
I can be contacted on 02082457454.
Speaker 2: 07:32 I'm
going to have to see if our consultant is available at the moment because she,
he is in the clinic. If not, I'm goanna. Um, let you hang on for a while. Let
me just have a look. Yeah.
Speaker 1: 07:43 Okay.
That's perfect. Thank you. Thank you for your help. Okay. Okay.
New Speaker: 08:10 Hi.
New Speaker: 08:59 Hello?
Speaker 2: 08:59 Hello.
Yeah, he's still, with what is it a patient at the moment and they're doing I
think a procedure. So, um, they told me I have to wait, so what I'm going to
do. I'm going to have to talk to him once he started, because I told him what
is this and I told him to see me once his done and then I will speak to him and
um, yeah. Can we call you on 0208 245 7454.
New Speaker: 09:26 245
7454.
New Speaker: 09:26 So
can we call you like in 5 or 10 minutes.
Speaker 1: 09:27 Yeah,
that'd be perfect. Did you actually, can you actually see the copies of the
letters that were sent to myself?
Speaker 2: 09:32 No,
no, . I don't know anything and he will not know, he might not know anything.
Speaker 1: 09:43 Himself.
New Speaker: 09:43 Um,
yeah
New Speaker: 09:43 That's
perfect. Thank you for your time. for your help.
New Speaker: 09:47 so,
0208 245 7454.
New Speaker: 09:47 That's
correct.
New Speaker: 09:48 Thank
you for your time and thank you for your help.
New Speaker: 09:49 Okay,
bye.
New Speaker: 09:52 bye.