Speaker 1: 00:27 Inside
of Chase Farm Hospital as an Inpatient
New Speaker: 00:31 [inaudible].
Walking from the communal room with my cousin and mother to the meeting room
for my second Mental Health Assessment after Doctor Greenside went against my
family's will and common sense to keep myself detained to get put onto a
section 3 of the Mental Health Act 1983
New Speaker: 00:27 This
is Bollocks.
New Speaker: 00:27 Mum
get off the phone, please mum, mum I am at a meeting.
New Speaker: 00:27 Alright
bye
New Speaker: 00:49 [inaudible].
New Speaker: 00:58 Hello
you lot how are you doing?
New Speaker: 01:00 Hi,
Simon and how is everybody.
New Speaker: 01:00 I
met you before haven't I some were.
New Speaker: 01:00 Year,
we met
New Speaker: 01:00 And
I met you as well somewhere.
New Speaker: 01:00 I’m
Very well thanks. We met briefly at your, place about [inaudible]
New Speaker: 01:06 Year
a couple of weeks ago.
New Speaker: 01:06 [inaudible].
New Speaker: 01:06 That's
right Simon I just wanted to tell you that I am we are going to have to be
carrying out a mental health act assessment today alright and that is the
reason that we are all together. I am just going to introduce you to everyone
now, that is the physiatrist.
New Speaker: 01:11 How
are you doing?
New Speaker: 01:17 I
am well thank you. My name is Dr. Rale i am Independent of the trust so i do not work in the Trust.
New Speaker: 01:21 Ok
who do you work for may I ask.
New Speaker: 01:21 At
the moment I do not work for anybody I am independent.
New Speaker: 01:27 You
are just an independent person doing a review.
New Speaker: 01:27 Yes,
yes.
New Speaker: 01:27 Ok,
it a pleasure to meet yourself.
New Speaker: 01:27 And
you.
New Speaker: 01:27 I
met you I think before somewhere.
New Speaker: 01:27 yes,
Er, I came to see you at home I think sometimes some years back.
New Speaker: 01:37 2014.
New Speaker: 01:37 That's
very possible
New Speaker: 01:37 Yeah,
that's right year. You did not come into a hospital on that occasion.
New Speaker: 01:37 Okay
I would have been happy with that.
New Speaker: 01:37 year.
Ok, I’m they err, Amp
New Speaker: 01:37 That
is perfect.
New Speaker: 01:47 [inaudible]
official.
New Speaker: 01:50 Hi
and you erm, Simon mother.
New Speaker: 01:50 I
am Lorraine, Simon's Mother sufficient.
New Speaker: 01:50 Hello.
New Speaker: 01:50 Hello.
New Speaker: 01:50 And
I am his cousin Jermaine.
New Speaker: 01:50 Jermaine.
New Speaker: 01:50 I
am the person staying in his flat at the moment, I am looking after his place.
New Speaker: 01:50 Okay,
and are you looking after the dog as well.
New Speaker: 02:03 No,
the dog is not with me.
New Speaker: 02:04 The
dog has just had major surgery so the dog is at my property at the moment.
New Speaker: 02:04 Yeah,
so, Simon were going to ask you questions We want to get a clear picture of
what's going on at the moment. Um, Nothing's out of view. We may interrupt you
because we want to try and keep things on track.
New Speaker: 02:24 That
is understandable.
New Speaker: 02:24 Yeah.
So, um, we'll just get a clear picture. So if you can be open and honest with us,
New Speaker: 02:33 Yeah,
at all times I will try and help you because i want
to go home
New Speaker: 02:33 Okay
grate Okay great. I ‘am going to hand over to doctor round now to ask you some
questions.
New Speaker: 02:33 Simon,
So, we've been called to do this assessments for a section three.
New Speaker: 02:40 Who
has called you, Dr. Greenside himself has he referred you is it Dr. Greenside
King.
New Speaker: 02:42 It
erm, he would not refer to me direct.
New Speaker: 02:42 AR,
ok, to yourselves.
New Speaker: 02:42 It
would to the Amp Services and the Amp Service.
New Speaker: 02:42 To
the Amp Services, okay.
New Speaker: 02:53 He
caught me, He is of the opinion that you need to remain in hospital on a
section three,
New Speaker: 02:58 I
understand.
New Speaker: 02:58 which
is why this has been set up
Speaker 3: 03:00 and
in he's professional belief.
New Speaker: 03:00 That
right.
New Speaker: 03:00 I'm
Simon I’m Sorry I just see that you've got your phone there can I ask if you
are recording that.
New Speaker: 03:07 I'm
taking the minutes to the meeting in a digital format.
New Speaker: 03:09 Well
I think that you need to have people permission.
New Speaker: 03:09 No,
I don't have to do that! What I am allowed to do is write notes I am allowed to
take notes down by pen. If I would like to. I have problem with literature and
with writing. I went to speech therapy as a kid so I can't write to well with
my hand, by hand but I can talk to my computer and my computer can type for me.
Yes, there was a court law case study that says you're a person that's in my
situation, or any person has the right to take the minutes to any means in
digital format, if they can't if they choose to.
New Speaker: 03:37 Hmm.
New Speaker: 03:37 Right
Simon I think that it's quite polite to ask people first. I mean, I don't know
what other people feel about how they are recorded.
New Speaker: 03:43 It's
I am allowed to have a pen and paper in here and I am allowed to write
everything that goes on in here down.
New Speaker: 03:46 Year
New Speaker: 03:46 Your
paid for professional servants and because of that your being paid to be here.
So I'm obliged. You're allowed to take the minutes to the meeting.
New Speaker: 03:57 Simon,
usually its, You need someone's permission.
New Speaker: 03:58 That's
incorrect madam.
New Speaker: 03:58 As
professionals.
New Speaker: 03:58 May
I ask my mum to explain this as well, the case study in Law as well and that i am correct!
Speaker 2: 04:05 there
is a case study law where it counts. And uh, basically yes, I understand a
load, of doctors don't like it, but as doctors, um, who actually practice the
practice of allowing to be recorded, uh, they say that it's more transparent
and open. So why wouldn't a doctor not want to allow it to happen.
New Speaker: 04:28 Hm,
Hm.
New Speaker: 04:28 So,
basically there's two sides of it. The transparency side of it and the
[inaudible].
New Speaker: 04:34 It
was won at High Court.
New Speaker: 04:34 Well
what I am saying is that I need to ask everyone here if they're okay with that.
New Speaker: 04:42 Well
I've had assessments before and the people that didn't want to do the
assessments at my house and I've got the recordings of this, they've done
checks as well and phoned up the law and governance to their departments and
they have agreed that if I, I'm entitled to record the conversation. So the
people that chose not to do it called for other people to come and do other
assessments.
New Speaker: 04:59 Yeah.
New Speaker: 04:59 So
if you wasn't happy with yourself,
New Speaker: 05:02 I
think it's a threat that's fine, um, I think what you do in you flat is fine.
New Speaker: 05:03 anywhere
I am. Any government, any government servant who is being paid to deal with me
a set fee, I'm allowed to record them minutes to that meeting and take them.
And if you choose not to be a part of this meeting because of that.
New Speaker: 05:14 Well,
I 'am not saying that.
New Speaker: 05:14 That's
up to your own integrity.
New Speaker: 05:14 I
do not want to argue with you, I just want to see if everyone is ok with it.
New Speaker: 05:14 Um,
New Speaker: 05:14 You
have nothing to hide.
New Speaker: 05:26 What
it is [inaudible].
New Speaker: 05:26 I've
explained that from the beginning on the ward that I will be doing this today.
New Speaker: 05:29 But
I was not aware.
New Speaker: 05:29 I
thought that Dr, Greenside had told you.
New Speaker: 05:29 okay,
So, you know I just, Personally, I don't have a problem with it, but I would
just like to be asked.
New Speaker: 05:38 I
can appreciate that I can appreciate that.
New Speaker: 05:44 [Phone
ringing in the background].
New Speaker: 05:44 Like
I said it would have been nice if we had been told.
New Speaker: 05:44 I
do apologize for that I do apologise for that in all honesty
New Speaker: 05:44 No,
No, that is fine
New Speaker: 05:44 I
just want to make safeguards for myself.
Speaker 2: 05:55 All
right. i do not have a problem with that I just like
to no.
New Speaker: 05:55 Right,
just to get back to the assessment, So, Simon why are you in hospital
Speaker 3: 06:01 initially
on the 25th I was in my house and I was working on my computer. I was living a
normal day. The police came to my house and what I believe happened is abuse of
process. A Gentleman called Lemmy in the beginning he started working for the
Enfield Council in 2016 and what he actually done this, he picked up another
person's work while they had left the company a neighbourhood officer Sarah
Fletcher and he kept arranging; trying to arrange meetings at the civic centre
with my mother over allegations. So basically my mother showed me what he was
trying to do to get me to go to the civic centre, so I made a phone call to him
and I asked him, I said, I'm, hello, Lemmy how are you. I'm recording this
conversation. Are you happy for me to record?
Speaker 3: 06:39 We
went through the procedure and he said he was happy to talk to me. I said I was
concerned about the allegations that he was accusing me of because I hadn't
done them, sort of thing and I wasn't happy to go to a meeting with him in that
phone conversation he, I asked him, can you go into the computer and tell him
the last time the claimant call about me? He told me on the 1st of January,
this was 2018 and we were speaking on the 7th of June, 2018 I explained to him,
well you are out of the time limitation at 1980 on the phone conversation, he
got upset and put the phone down. After that he's copied and pasted Sarah
Fletcher work and he copied and pasted 31 times. Now I've got a copy of the
Councils history of all the claims history and you can check against them and
you can see where these things were maliciously processed and put in.
Speaker 3: 07:21 Fraudulently
done now he went for a possession order with 31 fraudulent claims about me,
which initially started on the 11 cause while I was in hospital, basically at
St Ann's last time going for my tribunal. A Woman upstairs made an allegation
that I wrote a letter and she said, I'm a drug addict. I was writing Anti-drug
policies in my house. I've never had no problem, I've never been an addict, so
now she's backdated that a month while I was in hospital, she made three
telephone calls to the council, which are on the system updated complaints, now
she got phoned in to go from meeting with Sarah Fletcher on the 11/11/2016 she
went there and they didn't. They made a statement and they could, they can
remember the date of the drug addict but they couldn't remember the three days
that they phoned up while I was in hospital so they made three new dates up,
which I couldn't have done because I wasn't living at my premisses, so, in
total that was seven offenses.
Speaker 3: 08:11 Lemmy
has took that and he copied and pasted it. Then after in on the 2nd of August,
2017 because I was asking him for the statements that made the possession order
off the people of the people claimant he didn't have no statement. I've got a
bit of a dry mouth here.
New Speaker: 08:33 Do
you want a drink of water.
New Speaker: 08:33 Is
it possible to get that.
New Speaker: 08:33 yeah.
New Speaker: 08:33 That
would be great.
New Speaker: 08:33 Is
it ok to continue or
New Speaker: 08:37 Yeah.
New Speaker: 08:37 Yeah,
New Speaker: 08:37 Yeah,
New Speaker: 08:37 basically
Sarah Fletcher on the 11th which is in biro pen where she's done it and she's
left her job. You've got them on our own free will rather than because I put it
to her. I explained to her, I know what you've done.
New Speaker: 08:47 Hmm,
New Speaker: 08:47 I
wasn't even in my house at these times, so she left her job. Lemmy start to
come in and he picked it up. He started phoning my mum about the initial things
that were on it and then because I've had the conversation with him about the
time limitation Act he's copying and pasting it before their dates of them ever
attending the civic centre or wherever, making the complaint and after made 31
claims put a possession order in and went to steal my flat off me and we
explained to him well what are you doing, what are you doing and so [inaudible]
committed a statement and so he's put an injunction order in as well and he's
called the Mathiyalagans down for the first time on the 2nd of August.
New Speaker: 09:17 Hmm.
New Speaker: 09:17 and
he had, I can't, I think he's had a prepared statement covering all the things
that he put in the possession Order and the Mathiyalagans sign for it all on
the 2nd of August and he remember more things than he could ever remember.
Speaker 3: 09:28 On
the 11th August , they are temporary accommodation that live upstairs. I'm a
secure tenant. I explained that this is causing me to have problems in my home
and I'm having problems and I'm paying my rent and so forth. He says in my
tendency, that all means will be taken as a secure tenant to protect me. I've
asked the Council and asked my mother to ask the council to protect me from
what they was doing and to move them out and to take account from my side of
the story as well.
New Speaker: 09:52 Just
may i stop you there for a moment and ask you a
question, So you say you asked your mother for help to stop them from doing
what they were doing.
New Speaker: 09:52 Year.
New Speaker: 09:52 Yes
that is correct.
New Speaker: 09:52 I’m,
well you can ask my cousin, well what have they done to you in the last couple
of days.
New Speaker: 09:52 Let
me just speak to you and understand what they have done to you.
New Speaker: 09:52 What
was initially happening is there is my water pipe that runs through my flat and
it feeds the two flats up above me.
New Speaker: 10:13 Right.
New Speaker: 10:13 So
when somebody draws; has to use water. It will run through the pipe in my room.
New Speaker: 10:18 Yep,
yeah,
New Speaker: 10:18 Now
what they was doing is getting the taps and continuously slamming them off and
on, off and on, off and on at a fast competitive beat for hours at a time.
New Speaker: 10:25 Here
you go. [Man - Larry Re - enters the room]
New Speaker: 10:25 Thank
you
Speaker 3: 10:25 Your
welcome to it. [Hmm]
New Speaker: 10:25 And
this was stopping me and disturbing my studies.
New Speaker: 10:30 Hmm.
New Speaker: 10:30 Now
after one or two days it became more than just there's a Law tawt called Christie
Vs Davey. When the first person started banging at; A woman's started banging
at a man through his house, it is civil Law and becomes criminal when pushed,
what it come under is Environmental Health 1990 a noise problem. Then after,
after that noise problem comes hate crime 1998 and after Hate Crime it becomes
attempt manslaughter or malicious prosecution. against somebody, So, through
the time that this has been escalated for the last five years? I feel that all
of them Act of Law have been drawn against me and no person's ever taken a
statement off me or watched any of the video evidence of what I'm doing or any
of my other cousins or my friends that stayed in my house, that fallen victim
as well. If someone that took the statement or when Lemmy pick up the case, he
decided to realize I'm a secure tenant, they are temporary accommodation, I'm
not going to move out of the borough from my own family.
Speaker 3: 11:19 My
mother and my sister,
New Speaker: 11:21 Hmm.
New Speaker: 11:21 They're
are going back to Walthamstow anyway, so all he had to do was move them out and
then there would be, none of this as none of this would have ever happened.
New Speaker: 11:28 hmm.
New Speaker: 11:28 Just
recently on the 08/2016. The judge ordered that I have
New Speaker: 11:32 [inaudible]
New Speaker: 11:32 [inaudible]
The judge ordered that all of the cases get dropped against me and I have a new
home, because I was highlighting these issues. Basically what Lemmy done is
because he had lost a first Injunction Order; he's, I think the solicitor has
gave that to Dr. Greenside and he's using them allegations,
New Speaker: 11:49 Yes.
New Speaker: 11:49 which
are case number D something. Now after that case got struck out in November,
2017 that I won, without no doctor's help, Um, Lemmy go up set.
New Speaker: 11:59 I
phoned Lemmy; Is it ok if I have a sip of this.
New Speaker: 11:59 Absolutely.
New Speaker: 11:59 So,
I phoned Lemmy and explained to him I knew what he had done oversily
his upset because he could lose his job for Targeted Malice, Malice of public
Office and Malicious Prosecution. So now he's got a reason an [MO] he doesn't
want to lose his career.
Speaker 3: 12:15 His
just come out of Westminster. So basically from explaining to Lemmy what he had
done, he decided to, Um, basically; I had a conversation with him after lose
after he lost that case and I said to him, I checked on company house to see
any information of who this person was and I find a woman called Tracy Willis
who was a director with him. So in our conversation I said to him I know who
Tracy Williams is, is she related to you and he lost his temper on the phone
and he went I'm going to kill you and your mother. Now, I recorded that as well
so I've got that on recording. I put the phone down off the conversation
straight away he's got off the phone and phoned the Metropolitan Police, told
them that I've threatened him down the phone, the police come to my house and
arrested me.
Speaker 3: 12:54 Now
while I'm in the police station. He's yet again gone to the court called
another emergency application, He didn't even know what an emergency
application was in the beginning and his called another emergency application
and put um, done threats to kill against me under a new claim number. And then
what it's done is the strike out case, which has all the stuff um, The 31, 48
allegations,
New Speaker: 13:12 Yes.
New Speaker: 13:12 he's
got them and he's called the Mathiyalagans to come down to the, to the court
and they've done an affidavit of service which is fraud under the 1911 Act,
perjury. And then what she signed is she signed, I believe in my husband's
statements. Yeah. So reinstated the closed day case number. Now she's never
done a statement herself and it's all she, she, she sees her, she's doing the
banging upstairs with another bloke that's up there while the husband's at
work. Then the husband's coming back listening to what they're saying. Then
he's going and doing the statements and he's not even there.
New Speaker: 13:43 yeah.
New Speaker: 13:43 So
I cant even test the integrity of the true makers of
the first time statements at court or nothing. The judge just threw it out by
the end of it,
Speaker 2: 13:51 well,
no. The judge; --- He was not in court, basically also in the report that
there's sending me there stating that for Simon to be the judge stated for
Simon to be helped into being removed, which basically I've been trying to do
since 2015.
New Speaker: 14:10 HA,
HA.
New Speaker: 14:10 Uh,
basically Simon had to work with the mental health team.
New Speaker: 14:17 Um
New Speaker: 14:17 Now
you should have doctor um, Dr. Greenside's report there and it actually States
in that.
New Speaker: 14:22 um.
New Speaker: 14:22 but
that's not what was actually stated. The judge demanded they move.
New Speaker: 14:29 He
won.
New Speaker: 14:29 because
basically they lied in court and I'm going to say they lied, they said that I
had they been in contact with the council. Um, they've not been out once to see
Simon look at any evidence from Simon.
New Speaker: 14:46 Um.
New Speaker: 14:46 The
police have because the neighbours are constantly calling the police, I bought
a full CCTV for my son's property for the simple fact to show he hadn't been,
wasn't leaving the property.
New Speaker: 14:58 Yeah.
New Speaker: 14:58 The
police had been out on a number of occasions to arrested him.
Speaker 2: 15:03 Right.
New Speaker: 15:03 And
even doctor Greenside. I wondered why he hadn't been arrested.
New Speaker: 15:08 Yes.
New Speaker: 15:08 And
I said, because what's actually happened is the police have looked at the CCTV,
which.
New Speaker: 15:14 He
won.
New Speaker: 15:14 can't
be Edited.
New Speaker: 15:16 EM.
New Speaker: 15:16 If
they had actually arrested him, it would've been an unlawful arrest.
New Speaker: 15:18 I
have been arrested low.
New Speaker: 15:18 yeah.
New Speaker: 15:18 and.
New Speaker: 15:22 May
i say something.
New Speaker: 15:22 Hold
on.
New Speaker: 15:22 It
would have been an unlawful arrest and yet, we're proved beyond a reasonable
doubt. He hadn't left his house we have asked the police to arrest them for
false allegation, wasting police time the police are not doing that. So the
police are not doing their job. There's also 200, around 280 calls he's done to
the police themselves about what the neighbours are doing.
New Speaker: 15:48 And
I have got the recordings.
New Speaker: 15:48 and
out of those say 280 calls.
New Speaker: 15:49 Yes.
New Speaker: 15:49 The
police have been out three times, but anytime the neighbours call the police
are out like 15 of them.
New Speaker: 15:56 What
my mane issues of concern are.
New Speaker: 15:56 Hold
on, let me finish what I'm saying. Um, I have contacted Head - Helen Milkit which is they, um, uh, the police for this area,
they, um, commissioner for this area.
Speaker 2: 16:13 And
basically she's trying to put a load of stuff in place with Jack and alproof,
New Speaker: 16:19 um.
New Speaker: 16:19 uh,
New Speaker: 16:21 What
do you mean by a load of stuff may i ask.
New Speaker: 16:21 Um,
basically that the police do their job correctly.
New Speaker: 16:25 Ok.
New Speaker: 16:25 and
basically deal with the false allegations because it's all now being written
down.
New Speaker: 16:31 What
my main concern is.
New Speaker: 16:31 she's
dealing with it and basically that's being put into place. But the court order
didn't state Simon has to work with the mental health team for Enfield Council
to move them.
New Speaker: 16:44 Right.
New Speaker: 16:44 In
fact, it actually says that I have got to work with the neighbourhood officer
to actually get uh, because the neighbourhood officer is the one that would
move Simon.
New Speaker: 16:54 Yeah,
[inaudible].
New Speaker: 16:54 and
basically that if I needed to contact a member of the Mental Health, no judge
is going to demand that Simon interacts with the mental health team.
New Speaker: 17:06 Sometimes
they do.
New Speaker: 17:07 Well
no, she hasn't I have got the court order here.
New Speaker: 17:08 any
way.
New Speaker: 17:08 Yeah,
not on this occasion.
New Speaker: 17:08 right.
So you got arrested by the police on that occasion?
New Speaker: 17:14 Yes,
that's correct.
New Speaker: 17:14 How
did you end up here?-
Speaker 3: 17:16 What
happened is I went to the police when I was at my house. They put a letter
through my letterbox another harassment letter from a bogus call.
New Speaker: 17:22 yes.
New Speaker: 17:22 while
I was working. I decided I went out, I opened up the door for Pcs. I heard them
leaving and see the harassment. I went outside to go and speak to the police
officers.
New Speaker: 17:30 yes.
New Speaker: 17:30 because
I thought I challenge the integrity of it. I checked that they out their
webcams on so that everything was being recorded, so I need you to play.
New Speaker: 17:36 Sure.
New Speaker: 17:36 with
caution and be sensible.
New Speaker: 17:38 Sure.
New Speaker: 17:38 I
spoke to them and it was a male and a female officer there I took the advantage
of saying to them, talking to them about their whistle blowing policy and the
initial reason why I'm on curfew, um, is, okay, just to split is and show what
actually happened from there.
New Speaker: 17:49 yes.
New Speaker: 17:49 what
actually happen from there. In 2013 I got put on remand on bail conditions, so i had to stay in my house for a gazebo case handling,
burglary.
New Speaker: 17:55 Burglary.
New Speaker: 17:55 suspicion
of burglary,
New Speaker: 17:59 hmm.
New Speaker: 17:59 I
was on stringent of bail conditions.
Speaker 3: 18:00 I
had to be in; sign on the Police Station four o'clock I had to be in doors by
eight o'clock I had to, hand over a thousand pound also passport handed in. I
won the case after a year.
New Speaker: 18:11 Right.
New Speaker: 18:11 and
being stuck indoors, this damage my company, I got upset and went to silver
street clinic on the 11th of the fifth and spoke to a doctor Jarvis, on my own
free of accord.
New Speaker: 18:18 Right.
New Speaker: 18:18 and
I explained to him the case paperwork. He said to me that um, It's a bit of an
adjustment order, but really at the end of the day, that it's not something
that you're goanna have problems with. He's got to wait for the court case to
get the decision.
New Speaker: 18:30 I
see it, that's it.
New Speaker: 18:30 Then
I won the court case after a year anyway, and I've got released. This caused me
to break up my 13 year partner. She could just walk out the door, eight o'clock
I can even follow her.
Speaker 3: 18:40 So
now straight away I met a new partner. The next thing I knew, I know another
Asbo folder got thrown outside my front door.
New Speaker: 18:45 Right.
New Speaker: 18:45 Now
it's a massive folder. It couldn't fit through my letterbox box. So me and my
mother took; I phoned, my mother and asked her to come and collect the folder.
She come and collected. Without me going outside and she took it to Edmonton
green police station Before she done that she took a copy herself and.
New Speaker: 18:59 [inaudible].
New Speaker: 18:59 she
got the stamp for it. Proven that it was handed in. Now, so, saying I never got
served. Now what? In the copy that she gave me. I wasn't sure if there's any
pages missing or anything, so I did not take it as I was served.
New Speaker: 19:10 Yep.
New Speaker: 19:10 I
used it to my advantage. I looked through it and I noticed it was accusing me
of being three people I know that I hadn't seen for the last year while I was
on curfew and it was accusing me of being three
Speaker 3: 19:18 People
that I just didn't even know who they were throwing parties. My mother went to
Facebook and copied each one of their profile accounts, which is 100% evidence
that they weren't my parties. I was in house building Bliss Charity with
premature children working with the keys in my community Hall.
New Speaker: 19:31 So,
they can easily say that we were not there if they were asked
New Speaker: 19:31 No,
the second you show the Facebook profiles, it shows their name. They used their
own personal names to start these events up.
New Speaker: 19:40 Yeah.
New Speaker: 19:40 and
it shows them talking and inviting everyone approves it proves that the events had
nothing to do with me. Yeah,
New Speaker: 19:45 Right.
New Speaker: 19:45 Hmm.
New Speaker: 19:45 It
proves that I'm completely innocent.
New Speaker: 19:47 hm.
New Speaker: 19:47 Yeah,
and now what I noticed is that; out of the six offences there is only one of
them that had witnesses and victims in it and the victims are supposed to have
got keep up overnight. At a party that happened on Lincoln road opposite the
BMW factory, if you know it.
New Speaker: 20:00 I
don't [inaudible].
New Speaker: 20:03 AR,
well.
New Speaker: 20:03 Yeah,
I do.
New Speaker: 20:03 On
the A10.
New Speaker: 20:03 Yeah,
New Speaker: 20:03 And
on the Southbury
New Speaker: 20:03
Speaker 3: 20:04 And
on Southbury Road at the same time, there's the old man building opposite
Southbury Road train station. Now there was a load of people in that. The
adults I call them. Yeah, inside that and I don't know, I'm on curfew. In my
house, I have not even spoken to none of these for a year, now, this bloke
spoke lets call him Chris, he's from Essex, so the
police officer called Adrian Combs kept calling his mobile phone. Chris never
done his homework on him. He's given Chris an opportunity,
New Speaker: 20:27 yeah.
New Speaker: 20:27 I
think Chris see Adrian Combs owns a private company's called big boss limited
and what he is. He's in charge of all of the festivals. He's a really nice
police officer. I spoke to him in person since this happened. Yeah, and
basically he said. He got Chris kept putting the phone on him so he landed in
it.
Speaker 3: 20:42 He
got into his helicopter. With a load of reporters and when in search for them
and found them in a field in Essex, he landed and shut them all down and done a
noise abatement notice with them now he sent the paperwork over to the
metropolitan police saying that this is Chris is party and Chris might be
coming to London. Now somehow my pictures being taken, Chris's picture got
taken out and mine got put into it and I've got set up now all the nine 999
calls in my Asbo folder, actually belonged to the old man building, which is on
Southbury Road. When the police officer made it, he tried to cross out all of
Crown Road but they got lazy in doing it and forgot to cross out the X to Y
grid reference locations so it shows that this other party under the
transcripts under oath that police officer got asked by my barrister, are you
sure when you made all this list folder everyday is
the eighth yeah. And every day there was only one party, you're in a
progressive way.
New Speaker: 21:29 yeah.
New Speaker: 21:29 The
police Officer swears under Oath that there was not another party on that
night. Me and my mom FOI into the Council and they've accepted, there was
another party there as well. I looked at the nine, nine, nine calls to progress
way and all the timestamps go backwards to them ones where the paperwork was
made up and put it in the folder.
New Speaker: 21:44 Simon
sorry to interrupt you but is this why you came into a Psychiatric Unit rather
than being harassed in a
Speaker 3: 21:50 This
is, this is, this is what doctor because I explained this to a Catherine,
Catherine, Sarah, Catherine Hewitt who is a doctor outside. She un done the
cell flat door. When the police officer come to my cell flap like this, I was
in there all day trainer laces had blankets food looking after myself.
New Speaker: 22:05 yeah.
New Speaker: 22:05 Yeah.
I've called my solicitor and everything spoke to my mother. So I was, I was independent
and acting Okay.
New Speaker: 22:09 yeah.
New Speaker: 22:09 I
don't cause no problems. He come to my cell door and he said he's going to drop
the charges because the police officer believed that I had spit at her. I told
him to watch the webcams. He watched them and realized I never done that. Yeah.
So they dropped, they dropped all charges at the cell.
New Speaker: 22:21 Right.
New Speaker: 22:21 Then
they go. Some doctors want to speak to you. I said to him, I'm not too sure if
I want the doctors to speak to me, do I have to.
Speaker 3: 22:28 He
said you do and please do it for me. Please do it for me. The doctors come to
my cell door un done my flap and said you are getting section. So I un done the
flap and said I know who use lot are again, sort of thing, I just put a
complaint into Shoba last week about.
New Speaker: 22:40 yeah.
New Speaker: 22:40 you
come into my house.
New Speaker: 22:41 yeah.
New Speaker: 22:41 and
I have got an official complaint in again I think this is bios for you to ack
on this and Now I've got the recordings on this here now of me from super put
in that complaint in when they come to my house a couple of days prior. So I
thought, well there's a conflict of interesting in work under the 1998 Act for
them to continue with dealing with my case and assess me, Sarah, acted bios In
me explain it to Sarah. What happened, what she said is, I'm having grandiose
ideas that I am going to help the rest of the world with my company, I don't
think that's grandiose I think that's a good opinion to have as a gentleman or
as a successor to be. Yeah. And the other thing that they said, I speak with
pressured speech. I said that is a disability, that I have, I'm tongue tied and
I went to speech therapy. So I really thought, I find it hard to speak
sometimes look see it there.
New Speaker: 23:23 You’re
doing very well.
New Speaker: 23:23 Yeah,
I try my best. I don't want, I don't want to get sectioned for it, so trying to
keep you aware. I'm trying to keep things reasonable between us.
Speaker 1: 23:31 Simon
you talk about this curfew, I'm going, I am slightly confused because there is
an Asbo that you are not allowed to go into disused industrial areas,
New Speaker: 23:38 No
what it actually says.
New Speaker: 23:38 After
10:30 [inaudible].
New Speaker: 23:42 No,
no, no.
New Speaker: 23:42 No
what it actually says.
Speaker 3: 23:42 You
have got, hold on, hold on, hold on,
New Speaker: 23:42 Please,
let me speak mum. Please, let me speak mum. Please, mother let me answer my
questions
Speaker 2: 23:45 I
looked at the paperwork. You've got the wrong version of it. You've got the
version that the magistrates keep, um, done.
New Speaker: 23:52 So,
what is the curfew?
New Speaker: 23:52 You
haven't got the version that the Crown Court made.
New Speaker: 23:54 And
that is correct.
New Speaker: 23:54 and
basically the why that it is worded and this has gone through solicitor after
solicitor after solicitor. There is major under that breaches of my son's human
rights because it doesn't just say; it basically states, he can only be in
residential. Now that would include the present moment if being in this
hospital, I don't know. This is not classified as residential.
New Speaker: 24:30 No,
It's a commercial.
New Speaker: 24:30 commercial.
New Speaker: 24:31 It's
commercial. now basically under his conditions. Really. He'll be in breach by
staying here.
New Speaker: 24:35 What
is [inaudible].
New Speaker: 24:35 He
will be in breach by going to hospital, his being.
New Speaker: 24:39 mum
in a short summary [inaudible]
Speaker 3: 24:42 [inaudible].
The Mental Act will trump
New Speaker: 24:49 Yeah,
that is obvious, Is it ok if I speak mum, In a short summary in the Magistrates
Courts what initially happened in the magistrates' court? Yes. They did set the
conditions that you're saying and I knew that I'd won the case. All the way
through, only 15 police officers turned up, I asked for witnesses or the
victims to turn up.
New Speaker: 25:01 It
was eight police.
New Speaker: 25:01 if
I can't test the integrity of the people it was wrong and they knew that they
were in trouble. Yeah. And so basically after that I went to the, I looked in
my folder, my folder, I went, I had to collect my folders from my solicitor
because my solicitor started acting funny. I've known them for years. I want
and collected the folders of her and in it said in my bail conditions that they
made in the courts which you've seen. They scribbled and sent it to me with
some subliminal messages, attend court and dis us and we're goanna re - man.
And them threats were for me, now I took it that Josie done them, because I had
to collect them from her office. I took it that Josie could have made them or
Sally Gilcrest who is the Metropolitan Police's Legal Director who went to all
of the court cases. So I didn't know who done it, yeah, to me so, I could not
prove it.
New Speaker: 25:33 I
am still not clear how you ended up here
Speaker 3: 25:40 Basically.
New Speaker: 25:51 you
know that I can completely respect the legal aspect but my role here is to
decide whether you should stay or not stay here.
New Speaker: 25:51 Doctor
Greenside believes that I was having pressured speech because of what Catherine
what Catherine wrote in there and when, when I already had a complaint against
Sarah Catherine and also that I was having Grandiose ideas, that I can help the
rest of the world. And also, um,
New Speaker: 26:07 he
said I was having a halogenic, he believes I was having a Halogenic effects,
which is far from the truth.
New Speaker: 26:12 And
his neighbours making up all of the stories about him.
New Speaker: 26:12 And
him being deluded.
New Speaker: 26:12 I
think he was innocent. And I believe that there's a conspiracy of the police
against me. Now what the truth is, he says, do organization of a legal raves.
If something's illegal, you have to be arrested. I never got arrested the
maximum sentence. If you did get arrested for throwing parties is six months,
you do three insight on the 20 grand fine. Somehow I'm doing a seven year
curfew just for that.
Speaker 3: 26:35 After
doing the year curfew for the case that I won. That’s eight years from 32 I've
been locked up to 40 I can prove the timestamps are backwards and I'm scared to
walk out my front before 10 o'clock because these police officers aren’t being
disciplined and they are still working in the area. Now I they advertise, I've
got nicked in the paperwork. It doesn't go on my criminal record. There's two
things called a standalone as by an a CBO Asbo. The standalone Asbo say it's
like kicking a football up the wall. It's not a criminal punishment. It don't
go on your criminal record, which is why I've got. A CBO Asbo means you've been
arrested for like the organization of illegal Raves you've done six months and
they start the Asbo after. Now because of all of this, I kept saying all of
this to, I explained this to Doctor Miss Catherine.
Speaker 3: 27:13 She
said to me, she believes that I'm delusional in saying that there is a
conspiracy against the police in 2014 and 16 all the doctors come in my house
to do a section 135.
New Speaker: 27:25 February
2016.
New Speaker: 27:25 And
when they were in there with the Council, I did not realizes that the Council
had made the Asbo with them. I've told the police to stay outside because I
blame the police for it. Now, really the Council made it. We’re going throw all
the Asbo and that all of the Doctors and I showed them the missing signatures
and it says that a White person committed the crime. I showed them that I am
not even the right colour skin to fit the crime, let alone, I'm doing nine years,
seven years, an eight year curfew.
New Speaker: 27:46 Hmm.
New Speaker: 27:46 sort
of thing. All the doctors. The doctors agree with me fully in the front room
and they discharge me and say, that I'm okay and that there's no issues with
me. Now, Doctor, because I've explained this to Catherine when she come to the
cell, Sarah, Catherine, she's took it that in some things I might be delusional
and she made her judgment on that day.
Speaker 3: 28:03 Now
after that, it's just been a follow up between them.
New Speaker: 28:06 What
did you get arrested for?
New Speaker: 28:06 They
believe that; they believe that's spat at a police officer.
New Speaker: 28:09 What
was, what were you arrested for.
New Speaker: 28:10 They
believe that I spat, at a police, but I got them to check the videos. I asked
for her clothes to be taken and everything and I said, no,
New Speaker: 28:18 Were
you angry with her.
New Speaker: 28:18 No,
of course not I didn't do nothing wrong. I didn't do nothing. All right. What I
done was I upset them maybe I tore the paperwork up that they put throw my
letter box in front of them. As I turned my back to them. Yeah, I went [pur] like that I made a noise of doing it yeah, that's what
I think of your laws I was being a bit ambitious a bit. Now when I turned my
back, she shouted. He spit at me because she believed I didn't, now the bloke
police officer grabbed me from behind and put me in a headlock like that
straight gone for my neck
Speaker 3: 28:41 Drag
me down to the floor, I cut all of my knees and hands. The FME see it all and
everything yeah, it is all in the reports and now he's choking me on the floor
trying to proper choke me and she's laughing beside on the cameras and she is
going he is still spitting he's still spitting and I am not even breathing I
managed to get to get a speech out of my throat, your trying to kill me, I Knew
that they were not going to let me go. So I stood up with him on me and that
and went like that I wiggled out and run away from them, I see another police
car coming down the road and said to the other police car; I jumped into the
road and stopped it and said I am jumping in the car with use two until we get
this sorted. I jumped in the back of the car with the other two police officers
I explaining to them what happened because they were angry as well, believing
that I had spat at a police officer.
Speaker 3: 29:15 They
said, well we'll see how it pans out at the other end and they treated me with
respect and took me back to the police station and I explained to the custody
officer what i have explained to you. And then they
watched the videos come to the cell, and said that we're dropping all charges.
We know that they never done that; then Sarah Catherine has come and i have explained to her about the banging and the
neighbours are doing and what I have got on video tape and she said that she is
sectioning me under the section.
New Speaker: 29:35 You
said that the neighbours have started on you as well.
New Speaker: 29:35 Yeah,
outside of the front of the block. They see me and they have not banging since
because they know that Simon is not there.
New Speaker: 29:41 Okay,
fine
Speaker 3: 29:43 so
he's not delusional. He's not making up. It is actually happening.
New Speaker: 29:47 [inaudible].
New Speaker: 29:47 [inaudible]
I understand that and may I ask what you was going to say
Speaker 1: 29:50 I'm
I am a bit confused about this curfews, why do you think there's a curfew?
New Speaker: 29:54 There
is a curfew.
New Speaker: 29:54 [inaudible]
Um, that's more than not being allowed in industry areas
Speaker 3: 30:03 Can
I explain in short.
New Speaker: 30:04 It's
not that, hold on, no, no, no,
New Speaker: 30:04 Let
me answer the questions mother please.
New Speaker: 30:04 You
need to listen and read and read what is in the paperwork.
New Speaker: 30:04 Please
and in short the Enfield Council and the metropolitan police had to work
together to create an Asbo and if they do not do that the criminal standards
are not met. They both put a certificate that they made it in the Enfield Civic
Centre together. Now they need victims to have that. They never had that and
they forged the timestamps on that. So in a pretence the Enfield Council. my
landlords are saying I'm not allowed to be homeless. Yeah.
New Speaker: 30:33 I’m.
New Speaker: 30:33 What
also says, if I stop at McDonald's 24 hours, that I would have to be arrested
and go to prison. If I stop at a petrol station on the motorway, it's classed
as an industrial estate and I would have to go to prison.
New Speaker: 30:43 year.
New Speaker: 30:44 year
but you have had an hearing
New Speaker: 30:44 yeah,
and that case never got won.
New Speaker: 30:48 So
they put a nine year curfew for that first case.
Speaker 1: 30:53 My
understanding, those are forensic reports the Doctor from forensics.
Speaker 3: 30:57 No,
that's, that's a long time after.
New Speaker: 31:00 Yeah,
this was 2014.
New Speaker: 31:00 That
is something total different; 2014 yes
New Speaker: 31:00 Na,
there is one most recently. She's correct as well.
New Speaker: 31:10 Because
in order of 2014.
New Speaker: 31:10 Can
I explained to you what happened.
New Speaker: 31:11 I
thought you saw a forensic psychiatrist [inaudible]
New Speaker: 31:11 I
think everyone's getting confused here slightly, what's actually happened is
that first case happened, which is what the Enfield Council made.
New Speaker: 31:20 I
was thinking.
New Speaker: 31:20 Yeah,
your right.
New Speaker: 31:20 In
this last year last year.
New Speaker: 31:22 Yeah.
I'm just trying to explain to you
Speaker 1: 31:24 Someone
who regarding the Asbo
Speaker 3: 31:28 No,
it's not the Asbo.
New Speaker: 31:28 No.
New Speaker: 31:28 Mum
stop for a moment.
New Speaker: 31:28 It’s
the one to do with the neighbours.
New Speaker: 31:28 That's
what I am just trying to explain. Can I explain it to you?
Speaker 1: 31:34 Go
on Yeah, [inaudible] but they felt that there was no point in having it.
Speaker 3: 31:40 No,
there's two separate things.
New Speaker: 31:41 No.
New Speaker: 31:41 there
is more than two
New Speaker: 31:42 This
is where everyone information is incorrect.
New Speaker: 31:42 The
one about Industrial raves is about organizing illegal raves.
New Speaker: 31:48 Yes.
New Speaker: 31:48 And
that's why you're allowed to go out.
New Speaker: 31:49 And
that was 2014 and that is until 2020.
New Speaker: 31:51 And
then there was a possession order,
New Speaker: 31:54 That
is to do with the neighbours.
New Speaker: 31:54 then
there was a possession order that was forged. Then from that forged possession
Order that they made an injunction order to get the statements. Then after they
lost that completely knew how much trouble they was in. So Lemmy done threats
to kill, which is the next injunction order saying I threatened him and he's
got the recording so, in total there is a first Asbo, which hasn't been taken
off yet, but I've got the evidence when I go Highbury Corner Court.
New Speaker: 32:11 That’s
at [inaudible].
New Speaker: 32:11 Then
there was a possession order, made by the Council Frauded. So basically what
I'm saying is I'm not allowed to be homeless in the first one and then in the
possession order they are saying they want my home of me? Then in the new one
for the last two new injunction the conditions are, I'm not allowed to phone
Enfield Council or make a complaint or I'm not allowed to go to the civic
centre or I am not allowed my dog of the lead so I've had to sit there and let
these people do this to me and I can't even phone the civic centre. otherwise i get five years in prison. That's the conditions Enfield
Council are so contradicting, in all of the policies and the things that they
have aimed at me for.
New Speaker: 32:41 Yes.
New Speaker: 32:41 And
they have tarnished my whole life in doing so.
Speaker 2: 32:45 Okay.
New Speaker: 32:46 But
what you've got to understand is the restrictions of the first Asbo of 2014
basically really at 10 o'clock at night, he's only allowed in residential.
Anything non-residential is not allowed in. So like he is not allowed to go to
the cinema
Speaker 3: 33:02 [inaudible].
New Speaker: 33:02 I
can't go Warehouse nightclub, i can't go out
New Speaker: 33:02 I
can’t go out.
New Speaker: 33:02 He
can't go to a pub. He can't go it's like
New Speaker: 33:02 Because
I've complained about the time stamps being wrong and the missing signatures on
each police officer done five statements each pretending they were victims.
New Speaker: 33:15 On
the new restrictions he is allowed to go to one place for 30 while there on.
New Speaker: 33:15 and
their missing all of the victim signatures at the bottom. So there's, like
about 15 reports saying that people were kept up overnight. They're all forged.
And because of that, I've reported that now they are all still working in my
area and no one's getting reprimanded so I won't even go back before 10 o'clock
they're sending all their mates to my front door and that's why you lot are
getting so many referrals.
New Speaker: 33:34 I
mean you haven't been going out of your flat at all, have you [inaudible].
New Speaker: 33:36 I
go to the shops a lot. I go to the shops and I go to the in the local
facilities.
New Speaker: 33:40 Your
mum has been bringing you round taking you around takeaways and things.
New Speaker: 33:40 I
bring him around the big shop.
New Speaker: 33:40 Yeah.
New Speaker: 33:40 And
i will go and get the milk and the bread and
everything in the newspapers.
New Speaker: 33:49 And
take the dog out for a walk.
New Speaker: 33:49 Yeah,
my dog comes out with me occasionally, but not so much now. She's 12 years old
now.
New Speaker: 33:52 And
you do not go out much.
New Speaker: 33:52 Because
she has not been well
Speaker 3: 33:55 [inaudible]
during the day.
New Speaker: 33:55 [inaudible].
New Speaker: 33:57 This
is because of the Asbo about the raves. Is this because you don't feel, do you
feel safe when you go out?
New Speaker: 34:02 No,
because of the 10 o'clock curfew. I've complained about these police officers
who have done four statements each.
New Speaker: 34:07 Hmm,
hmm
New Speaker: 34:07 and
they're all missing their signatures. There's five of them each bettending that people got keep up because I've reported
that it's a criminal offense and the timestamps and me not being the right
colour skin to fit the crime.
New Speaker: 34:16 But
what is the reason that you are not going out very often.
New Speaker: 34:16 Because
I've been phoning that I want the first Asbo taken off of me. These coppers are
still working in the area and they'd been reprimanded.
New Speaker: 34:24 So,
you feel vulnerable to the police.
New Speaker: 34:26 So,
I feel vulnerable to the police going up before 10 o'clock until someone
actually gets told this is wrong and this isn't supposed to happen.
New Speaker: 34:31 His
right
Speaker 2: 34:32 See
the thing that I've got major problem with is it's like the mental health team
is using stuff the police are saying and their use stuff that Enfield Council
are saying and at the present moment the original Asbo was with the CCRC. I
don't know if understand or know who they are. Yeah, Uh, basically they've took
the case up and basically they know there's breaches in his human rights and
everything else. In fact, even in the transcripts from the court, they state
that it is okay. To breaches his Article 6 and Article.
New Speaker: 35:01 So
New Speaker: 35:01 er,
and mutable Articles.
New Speaker: 35:01 Well
lets
Speaker 3: 35:04 That
may complicate things because everyone may not know what they are.
New Speaker: 35:04 I
appreciate that
New Speaker: 35:04 Well
lets, why we are here today to have a look at the middle lines.
Speaker 2: 35:13 So,
until that is sorted out criminally,
New Speaker: 35:14 [inaudible].
There wasted
New Speaker: 35:14 you
can't use that against him.
New Speaker: 35:18 Yeah,
because I have not been found guilty for none of it
New Speaker: 35:18 Also,
New Speaker: 35:18 Where
out!
New Speaker: 35:18 We've
got solicitors that's dealing with everything. The Council, and neighbours are
saying, your using that against him as that is a 100%
Speaker 3: 35:29 Well
were not using anything yet.
New Speaker: 35:32 no,
not yet.
New Speaker: 35:32 You’re
having a laugh.
New Speaker: 35:37 But
Doctor Greenside has put treatment inside off these papers.
New Speaker: 35:37 No
were not.
New Speaker: 35:37 Yes
you lot are.
New Speaker: 35:37 Were
trying to understand
Speaker 1: 35:38 you
are because if.
New Speaker: 35:38 I
just want to be allowed out again.
New Speaker: 35:38 One
at a time, one at a time.
New Speaker: 35:38 you
wasn't listening to the Council why did Dr. Greenside, write everything that
the Council put inside of that report? for the section two Tribunal.
New Speaker: 35:50 Again,
that's not here something that we need to discuss.
New Speaker: 35:55 I
understand.
New Speaker: 35:55 So,
basically.
New Speaker: 35:55 I
don’t have to answer.
New Speaker: 35:55 that
is wrong in my eyes, your using stuff that has never been proven.
New Speaker: 35:55 Mum
stop calm down for a moment.
New Speaker: 35:55 Lets
have a break.
New Speaker: 35:55 Well
let's have a break yeah.
New Speaker: 35:55 let’s
have a break.
New Speaker: 35:55 Lets
have a break and we will have a little chat and we will come and get you.
New Speaker: 35:55 God
bless you.
New Speaker: 35:55 Thank
Simon
New Speaker: 35:55
New Speaker: 36:03 [inaudible].
New Speaker: 36:09 yeah,
New Speaker: 36:12 So
are we actually going to be meeting again today or is that the final conclusion
to everything.
New Speaker: 36:14 Yeah,
yeah, we will meet in a minute.
New Speaker: 36:14 okay.
Yes definitely, Thank you.
New Speaker: 36:39 Your
welcome.
New Speaker: 36:39 [inaudible].
New Speaker: 36:39 No,
you'll interrupt him whenever you want to say what you say. Your car, you jump
in when they're talking and everything. Yeah. Amy, she jumps in when they're
talking in it. I'm sorry, I didn't even realize you yourself. Is there any way,
can you tell him when it comes to try to give me a psychiatric report? Anything
that comes to meet me. Wow. Couple of days. The one I wrote in the paperwork.
Oh, he's, I think that's possible.